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SOUTH ATLANTIC MEDAL, CHANGES IN ELIGIBILITY, Sitrep 3

Published on Saturday, 04 October 2014 12:31 Hits: 4312

Category: General News

SA Medal without Rosette

Sitrep 3 is concerned with Group 2 and Group 4 claimants ie. Stonnery embarked in RFAs or Stuft ships. Scroll down to see the relevant sections.

The plot thickens. The muddy waters are getting muddier. (Not really but it does make for a good strapline).

I am still in  research mode trying to ascertain precisely what the deal here is. please bear in mind that this is purely to establish entitlement under the new criteria. Everybody who was entitled to the medal (with rosette or without) under the original criteria should have received theirs years ago.

There are 4 definite and discrete groups of people who, if they were in the South Atlantic during the revised qualifying period, should be entitled to the South Atlantic Medal (Without Rosette) under the new criteria. The big difference is where to apply for the medal.

  1. RFA personell and by that I mean RFA and not RNSTS embarked in RFAs and STUFT Ships
  2. RNSTS personell embarked in RFAs and STUFT ships.
  3. Merchant Navy personell embarked in STUFT Ships.
  4. RFA and RNSTS based in RFA and STUFT Ships in Ascencion.

Confusing init, so bear with me.

Group 1 RFA personell

By that I mean RFA and not RNSTS embarked in RFAs and STUFT Ships, should apply to

RFA PERS
Room 41
West Battery M.P. G1
Whale Island
Portsmouth
Hampshire
PO2 8DX


Please note that RFA PERS will not be able to order any South Atlantic Medals until October 2014.

They should accompany that claim with extracts from their Discharge Book which must include the page detailing the ships they were in and the time they were in them plus the personal details page (Photo, Discharge Book Number, National Insurance Number etc. (That was pages 3 and 4 in my book and was headed "Seaman's Personal Record")

Group 2. RNSTS personell embarked in RFAs and STUFT ships.

I have had a reply from RFA(Pers) on this topic and it is reproduced verbatim below:-

 


 

As we do not deal with civilians, it would be for the person themselves to either supply proof of the required service and complete the form to send to the medal office in London. I believe details can be found here on the gov.uk website.

If the records are be some time ago, they will need to complete the Subject Access Request Form and send it to the relevant address in Part 2 of the form.

 When they have their records, they can also complete the form for the medal office.

 The medal office redirect any RFA related requests to us to deal with but we do not deal with the recall of info from personal files for non-RFA civillians.

 

 I hope this helps.

 


Unquestionably the RFA Association will help wherever possible with Stonnery claims for the medal, the email address is at the foot of this page.

 

 

Group 3. Merchant Navy personell embarked in STUFT Ships.

According to my reasearches Group3 should address their claims to:-

Registry of Shipping & Seamen
MCA Cardiff
Anchor Court
Keen Road
Cardiff
CF24 5JW

and marked for the attention of Mr Neil Staples.

Claims can also be made by email to seafarers.registry@mcga.gov.uk or by telephone at 02920 448827, again for the attention of Mr Neil Staples.

I have had one report that the Registry of Shipping and Seamen are being a little "coy" on detail so please let me know if you have problems. You will of course have to provide suitable evidence to support your claim and I am assured that  extracts from their Discharge Book which must include the page detailing the ships they were in and the time they were in them plus the personal details page (Photo, Discharge Book Number, National Insurance Number etc. (That was pages 3 and 4 in my book and was headed "Seaman's Personal Record") should be adequate.

Group 4. RFA RNSTS based in RFA and Merchant Navy in STUFT Ships based Ascencion.

This is the group that, at the moment is proving to be very confusing. Specific ships may be entitled to the SA Medal without Rosette in that they went south of Ascencion before the end of hostilities but did not reach the TEZ until after the end of hostilities. So far as I can ascertain these medals have been issued so there is no claim for the Rosette. This is still under investigation and I will report back in subsequent sitrep.

 


Finally, and for now, please be aware that submission and processing will not begin until OCTOBER at the earliest and may take some time thereafter. This continues to be a work in progress so watch this site for the sitreps

 Any queries, please email me at sa-medal@rfa-association.org.uk